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In T+D Magazine (March 2012) from ASTD there is a great article from Steve Gavatorta concerning the arrival of Generation Y into management positions and the reaction of their baby-boomer direct reports. Any “young-gun” coming into a management position is bound to cause some upset for the more senior staff, but Steve argues that it is even worse this time, given the GenY tendancy to overlook some specific communication preferences of other generations (namely: face-to-face!). I contacted Steve with more questions, which he was kind enough to answer here…
(If you want to read the article first, follow this link…)
Intergenerational relationships have always existing in the workplace, just like intercultural relationships. Why is the emergence of GenY on the workplace causing so much ”fuss”? How is the difference so different to previous generation-gaps?
I think the main reason is Gen Y’s strength and experience using technology – be it using advanced technological devices and/or social media venues to interact and communicate. Gen Y people grew up using these tools/methods to communicate so it is what “they know” and its comfortable for them. Meanwhile, other generations had to learn a bit later in life, so its harder for them to grasp and it’s not their main means of connecting and communicating…also some from other generations have also refused to advance with the technology/new communication methods – all of these reasons are creating a natural divide.
If we believe the communication experts, using non face-to-face methods for communications could lead to a lot of misunderstanding (GenY use these tools a lot). Add to this the initial intergenerational “culture” differences that cloud understanding and its even worse…. What do you think?
I agree wholeheartedly – this method of communication is creating the big divide…two things happen when people solely use non face-to-face methods to communicate: Firstly, messages can get misconstrued and misunderstood. Secondly, there is a missing human factor that gets lost as well (facial gestures, eye contact, tone, body language) which diminishes “meaning” in communication. All these things lead to misunderstandings and “watered down” messages and leads to ineffective communication.
The T-D article suggests that the effort for bridging intergenerational gaps must come from the older generation. Why is this? (Perhaps its simply that T-D readers tend to be non-Gen-Y, so the article was geared at them ..but I see a lot of this kind of talk….).
Yes the article was geared towards people who are now being managed by someone from Gen Y. However, my premise here it that if you want to be an effective communicator (with any generation, not just Gen Y) you must take the initiative. Why be stubborn and wait for them? Why wait and generate resentment? My point is to “take the bull by the horns” and open the door to effective communication. And if the Gen Y person is struggling with communication, it’s imperative to try and make the connections to help them become more effective in communicating.
What 1 piece of advice would you give to Gen-Y managers right now?
Get out of the comfort zone of using technology so much when trying to communicate. Its not that all Gen Y folks struggle with this issue, but they must in turn realize that to be successful they’ve got to master the human dynamic of connecting with others face-to-face as well. They must also embrace that we are all different and many people may not like to communicate solely through technology.
What is the role of learning+development professionals to support intergenerational “bridge-building”?
I think this is two-fold: Firstly, it is about creating an atmosphere whereby generational generalities are eliminated. To really discourage the stereotyping of any generation – the stereotyping simply closes down lines of communication. Secondly, creating the foundation for a common language across all generations by using behavioral based tools like Myers-Briggs or DISC to develop effective communication skills throughout the organization. By focusing on core behavior styles vs. generalities L&D professionals can create foundations for effective communication across generations.
Any predictions for what will be the issues for post-Gen-Y workers when they arrive on the workforce? eg My 7yr old daughter in 2030?
I think one of the biggest differentiating point for individuals and organizations is to be effective communicators. That skill set is going to become even more relevant as technological advancements take place and limit our 1-on-1 interactions. So learning to be an effective communicator with people rather than via technology is key. Don’t get me wrong, I believe most of these advancements are positive…however they should never replace that need for human interaction…and in the very most important situations people who will be successful will need to touch that human chord.
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Silicon Valley resident Dr Tracy Wilen-Daugenti knows what it is to work with experts of the future. Collaborating with some of the worlds sexiest brand-names, she has been researching the future of work, the technology and skills required and what this means for learning…
Watch out, there’s a lot to read here….
First, what are the trends we are seeing?
Globally-Connected World and Flat World Labor
The scary VUCA world we all live in
Big data computational world
Smart Machines and Automation
Super-structuring
With all of this going on, what are the skills we need?
Sense-making
Ability to work with technology
Usage of new-media
Cross-cultural competency
Novel and adaptive thinking
TeansDisciplinarity
WoW! That’s a lot of stuff! What does it mean for learning + development people?
Firstly, longevity
Diversity
People will have multiple careers
It seems we have some work to do….
For more information on Tracy’s ongoing work on the future working world visit www.apolloresearchinstitute.org
If you are looking for innovative, engaging and effective ways to get your people learning, linked to the current trends and New World of Work, this is the right session for you. ASTD2012 W102: Driving Engagement and Performance with Gamification…
Robert Pearson and Mary Myers kick off their session by underlining the idea that many of our innovations come from new and interesting fields. This particular one comes from the world of consumer entertainment. But why is this interesting for learning? Can we really learn something useful whilst having fun?
Firstly, be clear: This is not another GenY fad. Although GenY will love it, do not ignore this. According to Mary and Robert, we live in a society of gaming. We always have. People love to play games. Online, face-to-face, at dinner with friends or in a gaming-group with strangers. Poker, Monopoly, UNO, Pacman, World of WarCraft… Watch this film and you’ll see that mutatis mutandis, given the choice between game and no-game most people take the game.
What is going on when people play games? Why do I care?
Reason number 1: According to the Neuro-Scientists, when we play games the brain releases dopamine. Dopamine = Pleasure. Pleasure is good for learning.
Reason number 2 is more fundamental. It’s about human nature and the 4 basic drives of human beings: Drive to acquire, to defend, to bond and to create. Robert Pearson says that if I you want to create change (the business of learning) you have to work on ALL four of these drivers..
OK, I believe. Let’s get technical ….
Gamification is the application of game-mechanics to a non-game environment in order to bring about learning and behaviour change.
Game dynamics are the different elements that arise when we play games. Based on the kind of outcomes learners search in their game, different elements must be found in the game: For example, if you are interested in reward, the game must include points and the possibility to move to a higher level. If you are interested in other outcomes, use other dynamics.
Getting started with Gamification
As with all new trends, it is important not to start Gamification just because it’s cool. Start as with any learning need by defining the basic important learning design elements: What are you trying to achieve? What must people learn? Who are the learners?
These elements may already give you an indication of where Gamification could play a value-add role. Mary Myers has found that sales people at Ford taking part in game-based-learning worked faster through their learning programmes and more learners achieved certification than with non-gaming initiatives. The Ford certification process and demands was no different to the non-gaming predecessor. But the results were significantly better with Gamification.
John Chen, author of this book on Gamification and present in the audience asked: But what were the business results? Did Gamification actually make a difference to business results?
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Walking back from the ASTD2012 ICE, the notion of respect remains on my mind. I wanted to share some ideas about differences I have seen and felt on an international and cultural level.
When I first arrived in Belgium I was loved by few, ignored by many and actively disrespected by some.
The last bunch of people (who shall remain nameless) most likely disrespected me out of suspicion and fear, as noted in the session with Paul Meshanko and Jim Knight today. They didn’t know who I was, what I wanted or what I stood for. They didn’t understand me, my preferences or my behaviour. I came from “nowhere” and couldn’t express myself in ways that related to their own experience. Even worse: I didn’t know anyone they knew…
Those who ignored me probably felt the same things, but were not hostile. Just aloof.
When I started as an independent trainer, I was interviewed by a training company who asked me: “Who have you worked for?” If I had been Belgian, I suspect the question may have been “What school did you go to?” Nothing I could answer would satisfy my interlocutor’s need for some kind of familiarity. I was alien.
When I wanted to say “Yes, but here’s what I can do” it didn’t mean anything.
This highlights my first point, which we can learn about in more detail from Trompenaars’ book “Riding the Waves of Culture”: For some cultures, respect is not about who you are and what you can do, but who you know and where you come from.
According to Trompenaars, in other cultures respect is associated with what you can do. These are the “achievement cultures” (as opposed to the “ascription cultures” referenced above).
What I find interesting today, here in the USA, is the level of respect I have been accorded by all the americans I have run into. I am called “Sir”. People turn to face me as soon as I arrive near them, smile and ask sincerely how I am doing or what they can do for me. This is much closer to the kind of respect Meshanko and Knight discussed today. Their respect for me is not based on who I am, where I come from or what I can do. They simply respect me for being another human being.
This is one of the values that Hard Rock Cafe lives by every day: “All is One”
Taking my reasoning one step further, I realise that the respect I have spoken of for the first 8 paragraphs of this post is not actually “respect”, but rather “esteem” or maybe simply “tolerance”. Real respect is an attitude that of hospitality and “going-toward”. That’s what I feel every day here in the USA.
It turns out that the man with the coolest haircut at the conference also has a message. And a partner in crime. The hair belongs to Jim Knight, recently-ex-longstanding-Training Director of Hard Rock Cafe. The partner is Paul Meshanko, author of the book “The Respect Effect.” Paul has promised us that we are going to learn about respect and organisational performance in a whole new way. We will leave with a new “Ah-Ha” moment about respect…. Here we go!
First things first: What are the traditional reasons to focus on respect?
Many organisations think they should focus on respect. Some sense of social justice or willingness to limit legal responsibility obliges companies to work on respect, via diversity initiatives and other corporate solutions to disrespect.
I once worked in a company whose HR department had the recruitment objective to bring in a blind lesbian African American… To show diversity to the outside world and to show we are an “equal opportunities employer.” This is NOT the kind of respect we are talking about.
Paul Meshanko suggests that there are far better reasons to focus on respect.
Anyone who has already learnt a little about stress management knows that as soon as we feel threatened by something, we are not able to function properly. The frontal-lobe shuts down. We are no longer creative. Things take more effort. And we get bad results.
What threatens us? (Think about it)
The example Paul gives is about dealing with people who are different to us. As soon as we are faced with people who aren’t like us, there is a potential for fear and suspicion, which leads to avoidance or even hostility. The opposite of this would be curiosity and a kind of “going toward” or true hospitality.
The list of reasons to feel suspicious and fear is endless and probably very personal. What is important to know is that when it happens we lose creativity, motivation and results.
So, assuming we agree that a focus on respect is cool, we might want to work on it. But with all the things we should be working on as L+D professionals, what’s the business case for respect? Enter Jim Knight…
Reason number 1: The current generation of workers holds high respect in high esteem. Higher than before. If you want to keep them, you’ve got to respect them. Disrespect costs in recruitment, learning + development, and lack of productivity. Cash.
Reason number 2: Customers demand respect. They don’t come back when they don’t have it. Disrespect costs in marketing to find new clients and bottom-line profit.
What do we need to do to get this culture of respect?
The first most important thing noted by Jim Knight is authentic values-driven recruitment. Respect your own values and don’t accept any less than perfect alignment when you bring on new people. By having people who are true to your mission and values (because it’s their mission and values too) you will increase retention and they will work harder. And when houve got the right people you have to talk to them, listen to them, thank them, develop them (and whatever you do, don’t yell at them!)
With regard to your customers, Jim Knight says you’ve got to treat them like it’s a first date. Every day. Treat everyone like they are the boss, the president even… the most important person in your air-space.
From my side, it’s interesting to reflect on my experience at the Hard Rock Cafe in downtown Denver this week. I’d never been in HRC before. I can’t wait to go back. Literally. It was AWESOME! I can tell you the name of my “server” (I want to say “new friend Bryan”). I bought a baseball cap and a key-ring. They played “Jeremy” for me. They played it louder. For me. Because I don’t hear so well and they knew that.
Pure respect.
Alexia Vernon kicks off her session by admitting that yes, she is a member of Generation Y. Don’t get upset. She also has some experience and she has a vision… Let’s see what it is.
Why is better onboarding so important? Why this talk? Aren’t we doing OK? According to Alexia Vernon, the first day of many young professionals joining a new job looks a lot like this:
Alexia asked us to imagine our own first day at work, first job. What was it like and what advice would you give to your boss?
At my table, I heard from:
According to Alexia Vernon, most people see the onboarding process as a simple collection of things designed to handle compliance, processes, facilities, training and development. What onboarding should be about is building habits. Habits that are in line with the company and the joiner.
With regard to GenY, onboarding processes are awesomely important because by the end of day 1, most GenYers will have decided if they will or will not stay with the company in the long-term. What is important for young professionals is not responsibilities and tasks. It’s not benefits and holiday-booking processes. What GenY joiners care about is fit-to-culture, purpose and company culture.
What does your onboarding process focus on?
Many of the non-GenYers might be inclined to think that they should therefore simply do the opposite of whatever they do at the moment. “GenY is just the opposite of everything I am.”
NO. Sitting with @innovativesarah , I was happy to again hear the idea of “NOT EITHER/OR but AND” Sarah told me its the “Zen Generation”. We need the middle ground…
What does Alexia Vernon suggest for a good day start? 10 top tips:
* note from DAN: Watch this space for a future guest-post-interview with Steve Gavatorta on how GenY needs to communicate better
…oh yeh, and one other thing:
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John Kao, serial innovator and organisational transformation expert kicked off day 3 of the ASTD2012 ICE with his innovation concert … With enthusiasm and expertise and an approach somewhat similar to “VH1 Storytellers” he helped the 8000 delegates to understand more than the “hand-waving” cheer-leading side of “Yes we need innovation”. He answered the question: “Yes, but HOW !??” …Kao’s short answer to the question? Jazz!
According to Kao, traditional music gives traditional results. Jazz brings something new.
In the corporate world, our approach business-music is akin to the following traditional music approach…
Where does this approach take us? (No answer offered here… )
Kao adds a little more explanation as to how the above example is different from Jazz Innovation and adds that, fortunately, it’s something we can define, encourage and enable at work…
Innovation is creativity applied to some purpose in order to add value
Or in terms of jazz music: Creating new notes in the moment, that satisfy the demands of the audience, but bring something new, going somewhere we’ve never been before…
What are the capabilities of innovation? What is it we need to encourage to help bring innovation to life?
The first thing Kao offers to help here is the idea of using innovation to some solve tension in the environment. An example of this tension might be the dichotomy of structure and invention: Fit in, but do something new. Stick to the rules, but leave from for freedom and modulation.
To bring innovation into the organisation, we need to help people understand what it means to fit in (bringing the big picture) but leave them room to modulate their environment. In Dan Pink’s Motivation 3.0, this might be about giving a general sense of purpose + autonomy in order to allow people to move towards to mastery..
This is NOT possible for people in the organisation when the level of risk associated with moving freely around is too high. If people don’t feel like they can make mistakes, they will not dare to take on the risk of trying something new.
The third ingredient of jazz innovation is the idea of diversity in teams and environments. Kao showed a great slide of the Star-Trek team and compared it to MBTI profiles. The Star Trek team boldly goes where no man has gone before because of the complimentarily of knowledge, skills and attitude. Innovation is not possible without diversity.
Community and context are also important for innovation at work. As Maslow told us years ago, a relevant social context is fundamental to create feelings of self-esteem and to deliver feedback. People need the opportunity to get together with their peers, bounce around ideas like jazz musicians and hear from others about what is good… and bad … in their ideas.
Awesome Kao keynote!
Off to the Alexia Vernon session on Onboarding for GenY….
ASTD2012 is evolving nicely for me and certain themes are starting to form. My focus today is on the future value of Learning+Development people to the organisation. According to Kevin Cope “Business Acumen” is one of the big missing links in the skill set of many professionals… …that includes Learning+Development people. Once you understand the core drivers of any business, you can get to work on them, create and show your value.
There are 5 basic business drivers that your people ought to understand… ..and 5 basic business drivers you need to influence with Learning+Development.
Cash
Your oxygen supply, more important than your mother, the king of all business.
Is cash good? Yes? Is lots of cash good? No? How much cash should you have? Enough to cover expenses, Capex and a little more for a rainy-day…
What does this mean for L+D? How can we have an impact on the business cash situation?
Profit
Lots or little, you’ve got to have profit. Not-for-profit organisations too. If you are making less then you are spending, you will not fulfil your mission. Simple.
To increase profit you can either increase your price or decrease your costs.
What does this mean for L+D? How can we have an impact on the business profit situation?
Assets
An asset is defined as anything you own that can be useful. You can measure your asset situation in terms asset “strength” and “utilisation”.
What L+D be doing to develop the asset situation? How can we have an impact on the asset situation?
Growth
Growth is commonly defined as an increase in your business performance. It’s important for 3 key reasons:
Why does L+D care about growth? How can we help drive growth?
People
There are 2 types of people: Employees and customers. These are the people that will bring you all of the other 4 key business drivers (cash, profit, assets, growth)
What does the business-savvy L+D professional need to do on the subject people? Maybe you think
Regarding employees in the business that you need to develop:
Regarding your customers:
At the end of the session, things got interesting: HR people tend to focus on people; CEOs focus on growth and profit; Finance focuses on profit and cash. This is a problem.
Making a business case for your learning initiative? Focus on the right people. The ones who have to back it.
Show your business acumen!
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DAN
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To kick off ASTD2012 session M100, Sarah Bloomfield (Senior L+D Specialist from Google) says its tough to get up and talk at people so anonymously. That’s not her style and it doesn’t help her focus on us, the learners. That’s the topic of the session: Focus on the learner and the rest will follow…
..but can we really learn from Google?
Let’s see….
According to Sarah, the L+D world is changing. You know this… so don’t dismiss it too quickly as “Google-only-relevance”):
In my world (Belgium, training sector) there is a little bit of stress about this in the learning community: If everyone is expert, casual, fast-changing and somewhere else, how can I help? Will my role become extinct?
“NO!” the minority answers. “You will become curators of content.” “Community managers.” “Nodes in a network of people who don’t need your expertise.” “The guide on the side.”
Sarah Bloomfield has a different vision. An holistic vision. (An Eastern “zen” vision?)
It’s not either/or. It’s both!
Creation or Curation?
In this social-media enabled New World of Work, should L+D people just curate everything, like some kind of super-librarian? NO
Sarah says its not really about what we should do, but what we should stop doing?
Very often, enthusiastic L+D people hear a learning need and jump to the chance to make a programme. Sometimes, these programmes are terrible. Sometimes they are awesome. Sometimes they are simply not required…. (remember my blog on “22 learning design questions”?)
In the new world of (self-service social-media led casual) learning, it’s even more important to assess first when L+D should get involved and then how.
To figure out your answers to the “NOT” above questions:
What Sarah suggests is that if you have done all this, you will know what IS left to create yourself. Creation AND curation. Not a dichotomy at all.
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In a fantastic follow up to my blog this morning on how HR + Learning Professionals should become more commercial, Sarah Bloomfield (Senior L+D Specialist, Google) bangs the nail on the head for me. I’ll steal this idea and call it “borrowed authority”….
Need I say any more?
Enter L+D 2.0
True business-driven consultancy.